Interesting Brandon Beach is actively on the board of GDOT while running for office. We all know just how dysfunctional GDOT is. He is publicly for the tax increase, boondoggle known as TSPLOST.

Chip Rogers, at least this time around, is against TSPLOST.

Please know your facts and vote accordingly.

Providing marketing and biased information on the ballot is patently illegal! I hope the general public figures out the elected elites are attempting to STEER them into voting for TSPLOST with coercion, lies and misinformation.

All those local officials that campaigned on being against TSPLOST,--and at the candidate forum I attended, 100% of them were AGAINST TSPLOST--- and now pretending to be neutral---we're watching! We see your temerity and lack of a spine to resist the lure of a pot of money.

Come time to vote---WE WILL REMEMBER!

This is silly... No one trusts elected officials, all they do is cater to special interest, corporations and their future endeavors. That's why you should frequently vote them OUT!

If I am not mistaken, Georgia has laws against electioneering near a polling place. The added verbiage appears to be electioneering on the ballot!

Shame on you, Brian Kemp.

Mike, I've enjoyed reading your coverage of T-SPLOST. Keep it up!

I think local officials are under enormous pressure from several fronts to either support T-SPLOST or keep their lips sealed. Peach Pundit covered a story in Lowndes County a few days ago about Gov Deal supporting local officials who endorse T-SPLOST. Back here at home, I doubt any city councilmen would publicly oppose T-SPLOST given the political and bureaucratic influence the GDOT board representative has here.

Maybe they just see that doing nothing over and over and complaining about the same problem isn't the right thing to do. Maybe since this was an actual effort for the region to work as one -- like it should always do -- and since there was citizen input to create it maybe, just maybe they saw through the complainers and no voters. Maybe they learned that paying taxes is what we do to provider for ALL public services like police, fire, transit, and yes even roads since none can pay for themselves. Maybe some of the complainers can stop living in the 1960s and let Atlanta and the entire region become a world class one.

Bryan - maybe taxpayers are tired of being taxed to death and lied to. Do we need to look any further than the GA400 Toll. Taxpayers were promised the toll would end when the bonds were paid off. Did not happen, won't ever happen.
Taxpayers were promised the money raised by the toll would only go to maintaining/improving GA400. Then why was toll money spent buying land at Atlantic Station?
From the AJC
"In 2002 $10.4 million from Ga. 400 toll funds and bought 6.8 acre tract of land at Atlantic Station - a price that state officials determined was THREE times the land's appraised value. That parcel of land still sits vacant today at Atlantic Station."
"A state inspector general's report released in April 2003 showed that GDOT paid $6.7 million too much for the property. ("$10 million in tolls for $3 million land - Inspector suggests Ga. 400 revenue misused," AJC, 4-22-2003). The IG called the purchase a "questionable use of state funds without documented due diligence." A Georgia Department of Transportation appraisal THREE MONTHS before the purchase placed the value of the land at $3.7 million.

Why are Fulton and DeKalb already paying a 1% tax for MARTA?
AND now we're being asked to vote an additional 1% tax for projects that include the maintenance of MARTA.
Are your really that naive? Please do some research and see what an absolute boondoggle this is. TSPLOST itself says it will do nothing to improve traffic.

@Truthseeker

Sorry I've done my research and it has concluded me to say YES and not continue to be stuck in traffic. There are far to many road projects of widening in the 'burbs for me, you, or anyone to believe it will do nothing. As for transit we need more options to move around the cities denser areas (downtown, midtown, buckhead) versus to have to drive everywhere. The argument is that the metro region isn't dense enough; well those 3 areas are and having walkable and pro transit options is a great way to move people in those areas.

As far as the not dense enough argument there are plenty of people in the main 5 to support transit. DC has already shown that it works. Small pockets of density around the stations that bring in business and walkable living space next to the station while still giving the option for those who want that "burb life" to have the option to commute into the city by car or rail and not make the interstates into parking lots. But once they get into the city how will they get around? Oh yeah the light rail and street car and beefed up, more frequent bus system that will be there with the tax. And though I don't like taxes ATL should pay more because it's more to pay for. Welcome to living in a big city. But once the burb lovers see how positive supporting roads AND transit will by they will be paying the MARTA tax as well and then we can all pay just ONE tax for ONE region! Get it together Conservs and Tea'ers

Finally, since y'all want to complain about the people you vote... STOP VOTING THEM IN!! Looks like the same conservative republicans keep getting voted in doing the same mess all the time. Then you'll complain. But I guess that is better than voting democrate huh?

Mike,
Keep pressing. I believe your efforts will be successful.
Every electronic billboard that is promoting a “yes” vote that I drive by on my daily round trip commute to the airport infuriates me to no end. The amount of money that GDOT is spending with such advertising is a perfect example of just how wasteful that organization is with our money!
Roswell has been funding MARTA for years, so what does MARTA do? They discontinue bus service to East Roswell requiring all the construction at the Holcomb Bridge & 400 interchange. Roswell citizens had to pay for all that construction expense & we were subject to months of disruption to traffic last year. And what organization do you think will be the primary recipient of the T-SPLOT revenues?
The GA 400 toll fiasco is evidence in and of itself. We Can't Trust Elected Officials to Do the Right Thing – your statement is an absolute truism.
Lee Fleck

Vote Yes on SPLOST and drag Cherokee into the 21st Century

I'm Voting "NO and I live in Cherokee County. a huge chunk of the funds are going to a system that only 5% of metro Atlanta uses "MARTA". We in Cherokee County are a Donor County and we know how well the City of Atlanta a "HUGE Recipient" Member are good steward of tax dollars NOT.. I would rather Cherokee fund the two projects on the list a different way.

David - Little River Bridge replacement was on an existing GDOT list, and was moved over to T-SPLOST funding. If we reject T-SPLOST the bridge should go back on the GDOT list. I know of no funding plans to widen Hwy 140 other than T-SPLOST.

After we defeat the current T-Splost bandaid, a Plan B might include more emphasis on Public Transport.
"If we’d spent as much federal stimulus money on public transportation as we spent on highways, we would have created twice as much work and put a bigger dent in the unemployment rate.

That’s the analysis of stimulus spending by Smart Growth America, the Center for Neighborhood Technology and U.S. PIRG, the public-policy lobbying group. Smart Growth America found that every billion dollars spent on public transportation produced 16,419 job-months, while the same amount spent on highway infrastructure projects produced 8,781 job-months."

In Oregon, property values near transit stations rose up to 20 percent, according to Oregon Metro.

Phil I don't have an issue about T-SPLOST in General, just being part of a 10 county plan Where Cherokee County dollars are used to Subsidized a Failed MARTA system that's a huge drain on the Tax Payers of Atlanta, Fulton, and Dekalb Counties. That's a Hard sell to people who will never benefit from MARTA. If the GDOT has so limited funding why are they funding all this pro T-SPLOST Ad's? Being a Good Steward of Tax Payers Money is first and foremost my concern.Those "Recipient" Counties and The City of Atlanta has shown that there not capable of doing that...

@David Fige

I hate the argument that only a small percentage use MARTA because it's a stupid argument. How can you expect MARTA to serve the entire metro area when out of 28 counties (even if you look at the 10 county area or even the big 5 couties) MARTA only serves 2 counties and is only funded by 2 counties? MARTA has about 500,000 riders a day. In an area of about 6 million that's still 8% in the total 28 county area which is amazing being that it only serves 7% of the metro region, as far as number of counties versus those served. But MARTA has 500,000 riders in an area with about 2 million within Fulton and Dekalb; THAT'S 25% OF ITS SERVICE AREA RIDES MARTA!!!! Heck, we can even split that in half under the assumption that 500,000 are rides to and from. That's 250,000 in a service zone of 2 million; that is still about 12 to 13 percent! And if you add all the tansit providers currently in service it still adds up to about 12% of rides are on transit. Those are great numbers compared to some cities, especially when most of the burbs don't even support transit at all.

For some real numbers check cleanaircampaign.org and run the commute calculator. The average price of gas is $3.30/gallon if you drive, if you take transit, it's 16 cents per gallon. With every rotation of your car's engine, you are getting closer to a costly maintenance payment involving your tires, belts, battery, oil, transmission fluid, radiator fluid, points, plugs, shocks, bearings, rings, gaskets, brake shoes, ... I read on here about people not trusting politicians. Does this mean you trust your mechanic? The auto dealerships? Exxon, Mobile, BP, Valero? The car companies that left the vacant, blighted acreage on the north and south ends of MARTA? (which is still operating, despite claims that it has "failed" on here).

According to the Atlanta Book of Lists, there are about 4 million residents in the Metro area and 93% of those residents commute alone daily to work. Assuming 1 million people commute to Atlanta alone every day in 4 passenger cars, that equates to about 3 million empty car seats every day! For the price most commuters pay to park in a month, they could have taken transit for 6 months. And people complain about a 1% sales tax to try and fix this problem? It will cost more to idle at a red light for 2 minutes!

This isn't a referendum that should need "selling." Anybody who can do basic math should realize the economic benefits of transit for both the community and the individual.

It's a simple question , What will this list of MARTA projects do to help the traffic in Cherokee County? NOTHING . I moved to Cherokee because because of for the most part our city and county government has been good steward of our tax dollars. I don't know one person I've talk to in Cherokee that will vote "Yes". It's kinda like getting the Hard sell at a car lot, and people just push back... I can go on forever on examples of the City of Atlanta not being a good steward of there tax dollars. Atlanta Public school is an example, besides the Airport . one former Mayor when to prison and the last one was sued over an Airport Advertising contact and it cost the city Millions ... then the current mayor has his own issue with Airport projects that don't pass the smell test ...

Bryan, Atlanta is a Recipient and Cherokee is a donor..It's simple we put in to the GDOT, School system more then we get back. So I would just Love to get 100% of our Tax Dollars back. We pay sale taxes when we travel and buy anything in Atlanta right? That what a consumption taxes are all about, those who used the services pay and those whom don't don't... I just don't want to subsidize the failures of the City of Atlanta Period !!

IMO, the issue isn't about roads and public transportation as we need more roads, more lanes and additional public transportation option. Instead, it is about the funding of the improvements.

Basically, the legislature wants a NEW funding source call "T-Splost" when it already has funding sources in the form of Gas Tax and Income Tax. These existing taxes could be used to tax the population equibly and have all beneficiaries of transportation improvements pay. Instead, the legislature is using DURESS to FORCE us to vote for the ONE OPTION they've provided us...T-Splost! They're all too weak-kneed to do their jobs and by their ploy "Vote for T-Splost, or Else!" are in effect terrorizing us. To borrow a phrase from Reagan, "we won't negotiate with terrorists!" I for one will be voting NO!

For all of you voting YES, please keep in mind that the Atlanta region (as the main population center and economic driver for the state) has built & funded the roads for the entire state. And while we vote "YES" for T-splost, most if not all of the other regions will be voting NO as their roads aren't bad. Now that we've funded their roads and we need money for our transportation, the rest of the state won't have to help! And the last I checked, citizens of every county will benefit directly or indirectly from our traffic improvements...IMO they should help pay!

Vote NO on T-Splost.

The issue for me is Trust... GA 400, the 911 phone tax, School taxes we pay. The funds get diverted for "other" uses.. I hear some people on the board that say what people want to hear, and not being straight up.. The hear someone from ARC that say this will have little if any effect on Traffic. The why spend 6-8 Billion tax Dollars on these project? To create Jobs? That sounds like the many Trillion Dollar Stimulus Plan the President put forth, How did that work out? We did get the Chevy Volt right. A car no one wants and even when we tax payers are Subsidizing each car many thousands of dollars each. If you don't like paying Big city taxes like Atlanta has you move to where they don't. I did, and I want to keep it that way.

I say for all the "no" tax folks fine. Lets get rid of all the taxes we pay. No GA 400 tax, school taxes, no tsplost... nothing. We will just all pay for what we use when we use it. So when you need the fire department YOU pay for it yourself. When you want to use a highway or street then you pay for it. Watch how our society as a whole crumbles. No one wants the taxes but wants the service. Folks don't want big city taxes or to help the big city but want the big city jobs and big city money and big city amenities. You want to go use it up and then when the city is crumbling you say "the big city is mis-managed." Maybe it's cause the big city of 500,000 has to provide services for 6 million or a 500,000 budget.

Bryan your right, we don't want to give 500 Million to build a new Stadium for a private company, when the stadium they are currently in isn't even pay for yet.Funny I don't remember the City of Atlanta fire coming up here to put out 1 fire. We have Great fire services and Our Sheriff dept. is Certified so it's in the top 3% nation wide. Our Standards are alot higher. Just look at the Airport Contract that were rebid due to the Mayors friends didn't win any of them ? Were corruption is the norm in Atlanta, it's the exception here.. I guess you don't understand We are a Donor County unlike the City of Atlanta were for every 1$ they collect they receive 2.4$ back.. So I would understand why you would want to keep the Status Quo... By the way How about that School system, that should make you really proud being the Joke of Georgia... Why are people keep moving out of the city? I watching the news every night to see how many got murdered....

Dear Bryan - My skylines are the foothills of the Appalachians. As far as 'using' your services...fine, we don't; nothing in Atlanta that we need or desire. It may shock you, but we don't need Atlanta. So help yourself to all the taxation you desire for yourself; just leave us alone. Life is full of choices and responsibility; we made our choice. Good luck; write from time to time to let us know how that city thing is working out for you as it reminds us what a good choice we made.

Mike Lowry
1:14 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

"Yes, but we are paying $12.50 for each trip, or $25 per day for these riders. This is not a cost-effective solution, and couldn't survive without the rest of both counties and the federal government (that's the rest of the country) artificially propping it up."

That's the thing, that $12.50 per trip that it costs to fund the operation of transit systems like MARTA should be paid for by the users of that transportation infrastructure (the riders/passengers) and public-private partnerships.

If a transit infrastructure cannot be self-sufficient then it does not need to be operational in this understandably anti-tax, anti-government political climate.

Like transit, roads can also be and should be made to be self-sufficient and self-funding by abolishing the state gas tax on all Georgian citizens (while keeping the gas tax in place and raising it on all out-of-state road users) and levying distance-based user fees on all Georgian vehicles (the more one uses the road network, the more one pays; the less one uses the road network, the less one pays).

Mike Lowry
1:14 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Making each major individual piece of transportation infrastructure self-sufficient and self-funding guarantees a virtually endless source of funding for our transportation infrastructure as the costs of initial construction and continued operation and maintenance of each particular major road or individual transit line is paid for with each individual use by each individual motorist or transit user, unlike the very-limited revenues from the gas tax for roads and the sales tax for transit.

This T-SPLOST is basically designed to run short on the added transportation infrastructure that the tax is proposed to build, especially on the transit infrastructure that the tax is proposed to very-partially fund the building of.

It's DeJa vu (i.e. the Federal Stimulus) in many ways but in a right to work State these Unions will go "unnamed." Hey , I'm just talking straight. As a society if we keep doing things this way we all deserve what we get.
Maybe it's the best they can do based on an imperfect World in the current political system; in their defense during an election year - we can only guess.
The facts are clear : Only 47% of the project list is for roads & bridges. It does open the door to Unfunded mandates. it is very expensive.MARTA is involved and they currently have a 489 million budget short fall. It is being sold on false false premises. We are not getting the value we should. We can do better; much better.

@Bryan Farley,
Commuters pay into Atlanta's tax base, as commercial property is taxes at a higher rate then residential. So you should Thank the commuters who come into Atlanta then leaves and don't use your schools, hospitals, city parks.. and on and on... The last I seen was Commercial paid about 25-30 % more per $ of property Values, than residential Tax Payers....

@ David Fige
You are right commuter definitely pay into the tax base but here's the problem. The metro area still generate far more than half of the taxes for the entire state yet receives well less than 40% of that money back. So what good is it to have a commuter come in and destroy the city streets and overall infrastructure then go back to the burbs where their money and the people that pay for the city get more of it in areas that are not going to need the improvements that ATL needs? It's still the same concept: commuters come in mess up the city then go back and wait for the money for their 4 lane with a grassy median perfectly paved roads while ATL struggles and suffers at the hands of them. Then you hear how "wasteful the city is" because it handles the entire metro area. While the burbs don't see no where near as much traffie as the city does, other than on the main interstates bringing you into the city.

Georgia and the Atlanta Metro area are in danger of becoming a high tax state and area. Our employment base is already suffering and adding more taxes on the citizens will not help the situation. Our overall sales tax rates are approaching those of other states that have no or very little income and other taxes. Of course Fulton County also wants to raise the millage rate to make up for lost revenue due to lower property valuations.

Georgia is going to get its clock cleaned by other states that actually encourage business growth. People have choices now and will move out of the state, along with their salaries, to states with lower taxes and a more robust economy.

We need to vote against and oppose all tax increases in Georgia. I just wish we could revisit eSPLOST.

I like this from Warren Buffet:
Congressional Reform Act of 2012
1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

Larry, like how some think the 14th amendment that dealt with citizenship for Slaves, also covers Illegals Aliens whom invaded, broke our immigration laws, but are rewarded with citizenship for there offspring born here. Also though a presidential order that is bought here illegally get the same reward. Our founding father must be rolling over in there graves. The Constitution was to Limit Government , not it the rights of it's Citizens.....

Treat them the same as Diplomats whom has children born in the US, they get certificate of Birth, but not a Citizenship... You can not Reward illegal behavioral..

Dear Bryan - Our skyline in CC was again beautiful at sunup and at sundown. The robberies, shootings, and general crime of Atlanta contributes greatly to assisting you keeping us off your streets and out of your businesses. Your streets should do you just fine without us, or our T-SPLOST vote. Again, write from time to time and let us know how that city thing is working out for you.

Phil, our tall, steel structures of success also looked beautiful lit in the Atlanta night sky. And like all major cities, there is unfortunately crime within. But it's funny because most of the crime in the metro region actually happens outside city limits (i.e. Gwinnett, Clayton, and Cobb), without MARTA may I add. But it's ok, glad you enjoy your 'burb life. I'm sure the 200,000 or so residents won't make that much of a big deal when voting for the T-SPLOST in an area of about 4.5 million.

Bryan, We must be living in a different world. The News I hear is another shooting in SW Atlanta. or SE Atlanta nightly..... Crime, Corruption, and high tax rates. Your Welcome to keep them all. As new building is starting to come back to Cherokee Country from people exiting Atlanta...

David, we must be. To say there isn't any crime in the city and that shootings don't happen would be a complete lie. But to say that all the crime in the metro area happens in ATL, completely untrue.

As far as construction please inform me as I don't go to Cherokee. Nothing out there to go to.

And you may want to get your facts correct because more people are moving back to the city, for many reasons. One being traffic and spending more time with family versus in your car surrounded by thousands of other people in cars you don't know.

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2012/06/28/httponlinewsjcomarticlesb10001424052702304830704577493032619987956html.php

And they got their information from the Wall Street Journal, here is the link for that as well

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304830704577493032619987956.html

Oh how I enjoy progress!!

@ Rico

Here's the deal with the "less important" thing. Services and money are going to go where the population is. Lets be real, if we have 1 million bucks to split between Cherokee (pop. about 200,000) and Fulton (pop. about 1,000,000) why would anyone divide the money up 50/50 when there is such a big difference in the amount of services each area needs?

The Ga 400 toll money was actually used to pay off the bonds that were used to construct the road itself. As far as toll roads I'm not a big fan either but what they do is produce money for maintaining roads. Understand we are in a major metropolitan area. What kills me about the burbs (mainly Cobb and Gwinnett) is that they try to be so separate from ATL but the reason that they have the population and the imenities they do is because of how close they are to ATL. Some people just aren't going to live in the city. But they want the things that come with being near a big city. But if you don't take care of the core (which is ATL) how do you expect the ends to survive? If ATL goes down in a blaze like most in the burbs want what do they think are going to happen to the economies there? You think companies are going to keep moving here and build downtowns all around the burbs? No! This goes for Cherokee too, when ATL fails the entire region fails and for that matter the entire state.

Rico
12:28 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012

In a way you are correct that Cherokee County and the I-575 Corridor, individually, is looked upon as less important than the GA 400 Corridor.
State politicians see the conservative Republican-dominated GA 400 Corridor (which includes Buckhead, Sandy Springs, Alpharetta, Roswell, Johns Creek, Milton, Forsyth County and the westside of Lake Lanier) as having more voting strength and political power than Cherokee County individually, which is seen as part of a package deal with Cobb and Paulding counties in the GOP primaries that decide statewide elections in Georgia.

Rico
12:28 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012

I-575 should have been widened to 6-8 through lanes years ago from the I-75 split up to the Riverstone Parkway interchange in Canton and likely would have been under a competent and coherent governing structure at the state level, which hasn't been seen in this state since the days when Zell Miller was Governor.
And, Rico, you are wrong about I-575 getting a toll road as it is only ONE reversible TOLL LANE that is tentatively proposed to be added to I-575 between I-75 and Sixes Road.
The reason(s) why one reversible toll lane is the only expansion that the I-575 Corridor is likely to get is because our inept state government, by way of the highly-dysfunctional Georgia Department of Transportation, has stated in no uncertain terms that they are not going to add anymore untolled lanes to Interstates and freeways in the Atlanta Region due to intensifying political and social pressure from an increasingly-powerful anti-road establishment and an already politically-powerful real estate development establishment to expand the region's ridiculously-meager rail transit offerings to compete with competing cities like Charlotte and, especially, Dallas as land spectulators and real estate developers view rail transit as being infinitely more of a driving force of real estate investment than roads in the 21st Century.

The plan by the political and business establishment in North Georgia is to expand the road network in the region as little as possible so as to eventually motivate Metro Atlantans and North Georgians stuck in gridlock to get out of their cars and ride proposed network of future rail transit lines that are planned to crisscross North Georgia mainly by way of the region's network of existing freight rail lines (like the CSX-W&A freight rail corridor that runs parallel to I-75 into Northwest Georgia through Cobb County and the existing Georgia Northeastern Railroad line that runs parallel to I-575 into the North Georgia Mountains through Cherokee County) and a few selected busy surface streets (like Peachtree St; Roswell Rd in Buckhead, Sandy Springs & North Fulton; Buford Hwy in DeKalb and, of course, Cobb Parkway which might work much better as a super-arterial with untolled local lanes and tolled express lanes between the I-75 interchange in Northwest Atlanta and the Red Top Mountain area just south of Cartersville in Bartow County).
Here are a couple of links that might give some insight into the type of comprehensive rail transit plan that the political and business powers-that-be are pushing this area towards eventually:
http://www.dot.state.ga.us/travelingingeorgia/rail/Documents/CommuterRailMap.pdf
http://www.dot.state.ga.us/maps/Documents/railroad/nga_passenger.pdf

The irony is that the rejection of this increasingly-unpopular T-SPLOST referendum by politically and socially-polarized Metro Atlanta voters (conservative OTP suburbanites and exurbanites vs. liberal ITP urbanites) will likely push the region even closer to being a rail transit-heavy region along the lines of a Northeastern/Northern city like a Washington DC, Chicago, Toronto (all three of which, by way have infinitely-better road networks than severely road infrastructure-challenged Atlanta) New York or Boston as, even though the proposed Atlanta Region T-SPLOST is severely-flawed, its rejection will cause already-scarce roadbuilding funds to be even more severely-scarce because the legislature built a poison pill into the T-SPLOST legislature that will penalize any region who votes rejects the T-SPLOST by requiring local governments within that region to pay 30% of the cost of state-funded roadbuilding projects instead of only the 10% that is paid now, meaning that all state-funded roadbuilding projects will triple in cost for local governments.

That is one of the Biggest problem that like the health care law, either you play and go along with this majorly flawed mega Billion Dollar plan or your going to get "Taxed" The SCOUS already said the States can't be penalized( cutting medicaid funding), so don't you thing now the president has been set, that wouldn't be challenged too ? When you put a penalty in a tax law you just opened a can of worms that doesn't cut it any longer...

Larry Welsh,
Or should I call you Mr. Mostest ? For people to post you should've actually passed 4th grade spelling and grammar. Perhaps people will be embarrassed at their ignorance. Notice I did not say stupidity. You can fix ignorance with knowledge. You can't fix stupid.

It's kind of like believing in a corrupt and incompetent GDOT and voting yourself a tax increase. A tax increase that will do nothing to improve traffic. Like people who have amnesia when it comes to promises made to taxpayers about the GA400 tolls coming down. Or the fact that Fulton County/DeKalb County will be paying for MARTA maintenance through 2 different taxes.

A yes vote would be just plain stuck on stupid.