Yes something isn't right here indeed, could it be an Ergenekon conspiracy theory? No it's the Journalists, maybe anonymous or the FBI?

Yes, Elif Oz, and that's a real name like gmtraker etc.... we dont need racists as you to tear down support for what is right. There are always going to be extremists in all socities and ours has you and your likes. However, I will not commit the same blunder as you and says all that the entire nation is a phobic and closed society, just because you are a part of it (unfortunate). Next, do say because I have an Indian origin I'm associated with the Kashmir extremists or the Naga etc.... whatever extreme group you can find in India... the bottom line is, it's people like you and that MarkMunoz (real name eh?) that compound the extremism in any society... so keep on your pitching ....

Here you go Radha, this is a copy of comments taken off yet ANOTHER article about the controversial Gulen Charter Schools this one in Indiana. Sound familiar?
"It is no different here in the US. Gulenists don’t leave their history and methodology behind when they come to our country. Here, they have played all sorts of manipulation games to convince everyone their schools are “excelling” while gleefully repeating the mantra about “our failing public schools.” Just to give one example, the Harmony schools in Texas require (yes, *require*) proof of acceptance to a college to graduate from high school. This is explicitly stated in school documents. Yet in their promotional material and applications for new charters, they boast that their “100% college acceptance rate” speaks to their proven educational model. When college acceptance is required to graduate, “100% college acceptance” becomes a tautology – yet this clever trick has fooled numerous people, including journalists.

It’s all about acquisition of power, which of course involves money too, siphoned off the schools in various ways, and recruitment of sympathizers by whatever means. Politicians can be won over with money, naive but well-meaning citizens can be won over with Turkey trips, and students are purposefully befriended by teachers who (parents are in awe of their amazing dedication!) try to spend as much time with them as possible in extracurricular activities. Guess why."

The conspiracy theorists who have never been to the school have some wacky ideas. I’ve seen nothing of the sort. I’ve had one child attend 3 years and have two others there now. I'm at the school all of the time and have a great awareness of what is going on in my boys' lives.

I’m a conservative who led the Georgia Tech College Republicans for years. I’m a Catholic who has taught Sunday School (PSR/CCD) for 3 years. I’m an adult leader in Boy Scouts, etc. Most of my friends who have children there are the same.

There simply isn’t any evidence of this type of thing at all. Have my kids met more Muslims since being at FSA? Sure. They also have met more Jews, Hindus, and Protestants. It happens to be the most ethnically-diverse school in the system, but they never talk about religion except in maybe a world geography class (taught by a red-blooded, white Roswell native, I might add).

I saw this conspiracy claim early on at FSA and researched it. The icing on the cake is when I was talking to the Assistant Principle about his grown son and daughter-in-law serving in the Christian mission field. But, maybe he just wasn’t in on the conspiracy.

MarkMunoz, I think you were ranting on another board somewhere. Didn't I offer to have coffee and take you on a tour of the school, but you ignored me? If not, the offer stands. And, you can talk to my sons to find out the real story. Let me know.

There's more going on to this than we know. All we know is FSA's side. Poloticians confuse me, and a lot of mean things have been said. But don't get mad! In every cloud there's a silver lining...

Dear John Trainor;
We would love to tour your school but you see, if you have seen one Gulen Charter School you have seen them all. They All have the same curriculum, same agressive marketing of "honors, awards" same Science and Turkish Olympiads. Same ole multitude of foundations and institutes layered above each school and the same naive parents at each school. The relationships don't last forever with these schools, they have more and more people pulling their kids out every year.

Seen one, you seen them all. No biggee.

Every body needs to shut up about FSA being gulen its all a conspiricy... i am a student there and i know its not terrists like u racists thate call us terrists we have the best ITBS Scores and in case u didnt know we r a blue ribbon school
EAT ON THAT

Oh aren't you cute, DP Safari pitches and JC hits the ball. Now you are regressing because your school will not get the 10 year renewal so you have to settle for the standard 3 year as you are nothing special.
keep pitching boys, and keep striking out.

Yes, Elif Oz, and that's a real name like gmtraker etc.... we dont need racists as you to tear down support for what is right. There are always going to be extremists in all socities and ours has you and your likes. However, I will not commit the same blunder as you and says all that the entire nation is a phobic and closed society, just because you are a part of it (unfortunate). Next, do say because I have an Indian origin I'm associated with the Kashmir extremists or the Naga etc.... whatever extreme group you can find in India... the bottom line is, it's people like you and that MarkMunoz (real name eh?) that compound the extremism in any society... so keep on your pitching ....

Radha, when did anyone mention race? You are so ignorant you are part of the Human race and it doesn't matter. What matters is the lying and mishandling of American Tax dollars that these Gulen Charter Schools have perpetuated across the USA. AND you THINK that Fulton Science Academy is something unique and special because the school tells you so? It is the SAME story everywhere from Young Scholars to Magnolia Science Academy, From Dove Science Academy (where they had a rape on campus) to Harmony Science Academy ......the SAME story.
We were started by a few Turkish businessmen that went to school at XYZ (insert local university name) they saw a desperate need for Math and Science so they invested in this school. SAME story at all 130 of these charter schools ran by known members of the Gulen Movement, in fact many at your school have admitted their affilation with exiled imam Fethullah Gulen.
No Radha you and your school are nothing special, just more of the games that this movement plays worldwide. But relax, you probably will get your school if they agree to the standard 3 year renewal instead of the absurd 10 years without oversight. What is it that the school is REALLY trying to hide more of the Grace Institute fiasco?
Do your research Radha before you spout off at the mouth. Your children are attending a school of a movement that abuses Kurdish children (500 in prison) and over 120 killed since the Gulenist leaning AKP party took control.

Mark I am tired of you claiming that this "movement" treats Kurds wrong. I am a Kurd and I attended FSA MS. I did not suffer ANY sort of mistreatment. In fact, they treated me better than ANY public school teacher. Get your facts straight and quit bringing hate into this world!

who told you that FSA was the "best performing school in the county" the school officials? Do you believe it because they tell you so?

Look Fitch just downgraded the stock to a BB rating on FSA citing their lack of oversight on the charter school renewal process.
http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5608331/fitch-downgrades-fulton-science-academy-ga-s-revs-to-bb-rating-watch-negative

Yes, MarkMonoz, it is... if you take some time away from being such a racist anti social being , these things are true. Well, keep up the rubbish, because the more you spew out... the more people will rise and come together as that is what we need at this time.....

P.S. Radha you should see the human rights record of this group how they have violated the Kurds, Alevis, and Christian minorities
Not to mention their attitutude toward female teachers.
Here is a little something for you, a clip of your news and how your school is showing irresponsible behavior toward the money. This is not about the academics it is about the Gulen Movement's manipulation of our tax money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRxJa-uRoM&feature=youtu.be

congratulations your school has managed to draw a lot of unwanted attention to your finances and lack of transparency.

FSA has received the best ITBS scores in the county 4 years in a county! And FSA's rating was downgraded because the Board of Education was going to deny it. And... FSA gets less money than all of the other schools; did you know that an FSA teacher's salary is much less than a teacher in a different school?

Rude things have in the past, currently, and will in the future be said. Something bigger than just this is going on. Poloticains are whack, and frankly I think they have their heads in... well never mind that!

I attend FSA MS and it is THE best school I can think of.

FSA Student you are a liar, the Kurds are bombing your schools in SE Turkey and resisting your forced Turkification in Northern Iraq. It isn't working!

Now I know you are full of Cr**, no Kurd would ever speak that way. They detist Gulen. As do most of the Secular Patriots of Turkey.

Shame on you for stooping to pose as a student and a Kurdish one at that.

FSA Parents that are real on this board..........do you really believe this BS?

FSA is the best performing school in the county, and you know it's right. You are just claiming that what I'm saying is false, but you have no proof! All you have is an unrelated link to a BB downgrade. Last time I checked, that has NOTHING to do with the best performing school in the county. And the downgrade is BECAUSE of FCBOE, because they are the ones that are shutting FSA down and making investors losing their confidence.
And, you posted that last comment in the wrong section! You don't even know what you are doing yet you have the audacity to claim that FSA is a gulen school, blah blah blah, etc.

No Kim GM tracker knows what he is talking about and so does most of the school boards in the USA. BTW you have a potty mouth, hope you don't teach at one of these schools.

Just by posting all these fake made up websites does not prove any point. It does prove that there are extremists and racists out like you... we always need to be reminded about what your like minded morons do to the society... so keep the rhetoric up....

No Radha and stop making this about race, we are all human race. You must mean ethnicity? Turks are all caucasian and with their human rights record (the worst in the world with the most jailed journalists) do your research about this group before you spew your inaccurate comments. Keep rising together and helping a cult accomplish their goal of 600 schools in the USA. Get away from the fact your kid is getting A's and fake honors, they own and sponsor THEIR contests and know how to market this: CONSEF, Science Olympiad, Turkish Olympiad (their most important goal to push off Turkish culture on the children), Math Matters, I-Sweep, Genius and more. Just because this school is telling you your kid is excelling, doesn't mean it is true. Who would trust people from a country or Cult that is known for having one of the highest illiteracy rates in the world? 14 million in Turkiye do not read or write, yet this group professes to be Scholars (although they have stopped this fake advertising after parents at many of the schools called them out on this)

Many parents have come forward, maybe you will too. So have you as a parent gone to Turkey or their parent Turkish Cooking class? They want to drown you and your family into their culture. This is the sole purpose of the schools, and to create sympathizers to their movement. nothing more, they care less about your kid you are only a tool to justify their means and agenda.

Every body needs to shut up about FSA being gulen its all a conspiricy... i am a student there and i know its not terrists like u racists thate call us terrists we have the best ITBS Scores and in case u didnt know we r a blue ribbon school
EAT ON THAT

Student's First...
And just what would that "hidden agenda" be?
Hmmm, sounds like a Hizmet story or Cemaat.
Although many newspapers across the USA refer to your charter schools as having a "hidden agenda" can't imagine what that would be ...Maybe the NY Times was right? or USA Today? CNN News? Oh take your pick so many news articles about your hidden agenda and so many more to come.

No, it isn't going away.

Radha what is fake about websites that cite government documents, and news stories about the Gulen Charter Schools and the Gulen Movement worldwide?

Be speciifc about what is fake, none of it is contrived or made up like your "get the facts" or "leave charters alone" No one cares about charter schools, it s about a cult movement making off with billions in Federal, State educational money.

I suppose Radha thinks the government documents and other news stories are all fake. The Gulen Movement has successfully overshadowed their lack of transparency and irresponsibility of finances once again with shouts of "academic success" yet blinding the parents and public to the REAL issues at these schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRxJa-uRoM&feature=youtu.be

As we have said before, Radha, et al, you will get your stinking school but not ON your terms without oversight. If you have NOTHING TO HIDE then embrace the 3 year charter renewal and work with the school district board who has the control of these charter schools.
Gulen Charter Schools error in thinking they are special and that Americans don't need to tell them how to run the schools. They have even erronously referred to their troubled school in Chicago (Chicago Math and Science Academy) as a "private" school. If that is so than reimburse the tax payers for our money we have given to these schools.

Come on step up to the plate and show how honest you really are. Take the 3 year renewal like all the other charter schools in the USA, many are way better than yours.

Show you have nothing to hide and take it, show the transparency.

and Turkey is ranked below standard on OCED testing out of 36 countries they are 34, with over 14 million illiterate people and 2,000 Turkish students a day leave school. So you think you know best what is right for America and her students? Try again, my friends,no one is buying the "taught by scholars" marketing hype you tried 2 years ago. Your ride in the USA is getting tougher and tougher.

So many tongues wagging, so many ex- teachers to interview.

Oh yeah!!! this is not the USA, it's Turkey where we live,,,,,, get a grip on your posts. It's arrogance, ego and racism at it's first class - showing up with Avossa and his cronies like you....

Kim, the transparency they are looking for is your obvious affilations with Grace Institute and the Gulen Movement.
http://www.gulencharterschoolsusa.blogspot.com

Run along and keep giving undeserving American kids their As and bestow fake awards on them so their parents fight for your movement.
http://www.charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com

Yes, the intelligent folks of our society will regard words on a blog spot for wisdom... we're not fixing a bike or a broken sprinkler system.... even those comments are considered with more than a couple grains of salt.

Radha, this group is despised in Turkey because they are trying to "work into the arteries of the system" by infilitrating: education, media, politics, judicary system, and attempting to take over the military. Imam Muhamed Fethullah Gulen was exiled out of Turkey because of this "work into the arteries of the system" speech. his followers followed him to the USA where he is basically under house arrest in the Poconos, PA area. They are now repeating the SAME formula in the USA as they have in Turkey, Netherlands, SE Asia, Central Asia. l They have closed their schools in Russia, Uzbekistan, and Turmenistan. Maybe you only care about the fact your kid is getting a fake education with A's they are working on you via your kid. So tell us did he get all A's and awards. It wouldn't surprise us we have heard it time and time again from naive parents. "I like this school my kids get A's"

And they can dance a mean Kolbasti too.

No, Mark, I mean Mary, I mean Elif, I mean gmtracker...oh even I can't keep up with all of your personalities, I am not affiliated with Grace Institiute nor am I a teacher at FSA. I am a very blessed and grateful mother who has been awarded the fantastic opportunity to have my children educated at the top performing middle school.
The education is unprecented, that's what this is about, right? Why do you feel you need to bring religion into the mix? This has nothing to do with religion, you know that as well as I do. I am truly sorry, Mary that it didn't work out for you the first go around.
Don't be bitter, I'm sure something good will happen to you, you just have to have faith.

No Kim or is it Kenar, your Fulton Science academy School board lied to YOU! They did not honor their part of the contract and thought they could pull a fast one on you parents by playing victim and blaming the FC School Board who was doing their job. Your FSA School board knew better instead they blame others and take no accountability for their actions.
Look how many times they have changed their name and board. If I was you "real" parents I would watch this group when they apply at the state so they don't let your hopes down and steer you in a bad direction. This is just irresponsibilty Hizmet style, In Turkey they frequently blame others for their actions or label people "Ergenekon" "Terrorists or whatever.
Here is a guide for you to go by, how they change their names.

http://www.charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/2011/12/gulen-charter-schools-in-georgia.html

Hey Everyone, for those of you who are new to these blogs, I just wanted to let you all know who Elif Oz, MarkMunoz, gmtracker and various other identities is. Her real name is Mary Addi. If you scroll down the page, you will see where a person named DH posts a link to this sad lady. Read it, it's pretty interesting. So, let's not let this lonely lady with several different personalities and aliases get us worked up. It's possible she suffers from a case of paranoid schizophrenia, but I'm not a doctor and can't diagnose her. Sounds like jealousy and bitterness to me.
Anyway, let us all remember that everything happens for a reason and that the BEST will come out of this. I am excited for our future as I'm sure many of you are.
Have a safe and happy holiday!

Dear John Jones;
Yes they know what it does to 500 students, it SAVES them from the clutches of an evil lying movement that changes grades, cheats on tests and spends millions on non-eduational outward appearances like trips to Turkey, fake contests and awards, and photo opportunities with local politicians. Yawn, nothing new with this group they are getting old.
http://www.gulenpoliticians.blogspot.com

Radha they are not "words" they are cited and referenced government documents like this group's 990 tax returns, H1-b Visa data, and news articles about these controversial schools which has been quite a bit lately. Perhaps you have seen the USA Today article by Greg Toppo or the NY Times Article by Stephanie Saul? That is just a few. Are they are fake too? No, not words Radha, they are hard facts with substantiated documentation as back up. The FBI knows who this group is.

No "Kim" it's not Mary it's one of the many many ex-American teachers your group has shown their bigotry towards. "Kim" "Radha" or "American parent" we cannot keep up with what name you use only that our group is growing ever day and you are falling out of favor with the American politicians that you also bestowed fake honors and awards on. Not to mention those Free trips to turkey.
with staged tours to the Gulen schools and Today's Zaman.
So how many local politicians have you invited to FSA? More than 6-7? Well texas has you beat, but now those politicians are not answer your phone calls.

http://www.gulenpoliticians.blogspot.com

Free trip to Turkey??? I am an FSA student, and you have to pay for it yourself!!! This school has nothing associated with the Gulen Movement.

Exactly Bob, what is FSA afraid of?

transparency? Oops they may find out that a huge amount of money that is to be used on Educational purposes is going to non-educational expenses like: Trips to Turkey, Marketing and advertising of the school, paying for h1-b Visas of the families of teachers (that happened in Ohio at your Horizon Science Academy and the schools paid back what they stole from the children) or maybe the Turkish Olympiads? turkish Cooking classes for parents, so you can be good little Turkish parents and learn Turkish values like killing kurds. cutting heads off of Catholic Priests. GEEZ these people try WAY too hard to show they are tolerant and not predjudice. Just mention Israel to them and they will go crazy, they burn the USA and Israeli flag in Turkey periodically.
Suppose they will get the parents to hate the USA and Israel too.

To Bob,
Obviously you're NOT very well informed about Fulton School System's future movement. Its system is currently undergoing a Charter *System* Conversion full throttle! Be informed before you irresponsibly write blogs! What "gamble"? Garnering a Blue Ribbon status for the county & state is a gamble? I'd bet you don't even know what the criteria for a Blue Ribbon qualification is. It's to raise the bar for the underprivileged (socio-economically disenfranchised) and/or minorities who otherwise would have been left cold in the gblack hole. It's basically 'no child left behind' at its best without all the phony, excessive testing that the actual "No Child Left Behind Act [NCLB]" has sucked up in the education budget tax dollar$. All these maniacal focus on CRCT/ITBS testings by the state has actually LEFT MANY Georgia Students BEHIND. That's why the state legislators have successfully won a recent waiver from US Dept. of Education so that the schools don't have to be maniacal about testing anymore. Go back to teaching not testing is the motto.

Why not settle for 6 years or even 5 years? Why "3"? It's because the charter system conversion within Fulton schools must be completely phased in by 2016. This means that all indepdendent charter schools like FSA (which in essence is competing with Fulton Schools managed by FCBOE) would need to be "folded into" the Fulton School System before 2016 should the FCBOE gain back the $$ currently allotted to FSA.

"It's to raise the bar for the underprivileged (socio-economically disenfranchised) and/or minorities who otherwise would have been left cold in the gblack hole."

Smartie, it's not like "MarkMunoz" (more like "Mark?WhoKnows?") actually cares about the underprivileged OR the students.

Mark, I learn about Israel in school, and no one goes crazy about it. Why is the USA having good relations with Turkey, then, if supposedly Turkey burns its flag periodically???

Radha, the arrogance is Hizmet who THINKS they should have 10 years without any oversight or accountability. Funny how this happened after they were busted with the $150K Grace Institute controversy and the bond financing and sneaking to build one huge gulen monument to house all the FSA schools.
If you want to see arrogance take a look in the mirror, Avossa and the rest are protecting our money and OUR CHILDREN.
http://www.charterschoolwatchdog.com

Hi Radha,
Please scroll down and read what DH wrote. You will see that my suspcions about Elif Oz, Mark Munoz, gmtracker, etc are true. Read my comments and then read the link that DH supplied. It's pretty funny!!
Don't worry, as I said earlier, in the end we will prevail! FSA is the BEST!!!!!!!!

Radha, make the school board your enemy by disparaging them, this is the Gulen way to stop the truth and freedom of speech. Did you know that over 140 Turkish journalists are in jail as they were writing about the leader of this cult? Imam Ordusu (imam army) Your school directors are all followers of Gulen, they are part of Hizmet or Cemaat. Do your research and look past the A's and awards your kids are getting from their sponsored contests.

Oh now you are going to play victim and use underprivileged kids to hide behind. Well trash raises to the surface and these Gulen managed schools always manage to create more and more controversy wherever they go. You should hear what is going on at their school in the Netherlands, same thing 2 people had to step down from a board because of conflict of interest with the Gulen Movement.
Alas, at this point it isn't about "Gulen Movement" because it is already established and proven that they are followers of Hocaefendi Fetos.

The point is how are you going to salvage your school?

Accept the 3 year renewal and obey all the laws and regulations of Charter Schools. It is very simple, the more you are stupid and get hung up on the 10 year the more you will lose these schools.

Frankly, I want you around a few more years so I can watch you go under because of your stupidity and greed.

Mr Avossa's action today is counter to his lofty statement here. Georgia schools are struggling as are our schools in the nation, as compared to the schools in the other developed nations. So, Mr Avossa seems to say let's start shutting down the schools that are working well.

yes an HONEST and TRANSPARENT level playing field for all children even special needs students that are regularly creamed out by the Gulen Charter Schools along with the lower performers for their numbers to be weighed heavily in their favor not in the favor of the children. The children are nothing to the Gulen Movement, they hide behind them and use them as a shield.

Yes, Eliz Oz that made up website and extremist comment again... keep it up... because that's really helping me in sending out more emails to those that matter.. I just want to be sure that you don't shut up!!!!!

If Mr. Avossa truly wants a "level playing field in American education", then he should start modeling his speech with his hiring practice. In such brief tenure, has he not only scouted his friends from Charlotte-Mecklenberg district but also seem to be hiring Caucasian, Male principals to highly visible posts: Chris Triolo, Paul Brannon, Michael Davis, etc. Maybe it's just a sheer coincidence. Just couldn't wonder if that's a "level playing field" he was referring to? You know... leveling to HIS playing field.

http://portal.fultonschools.org/News_Room/Archives/Pages/NewleadernamedforRiverwoodInternationalCharterSchool.aspx

http://portal.fultonschools.org/News_Room/Archives/Pages/PrincipalsnamedforWilsonCreekElementary,NorthviewHigh.aspx

Radha what made up website? nothing is made up. except the Gulen Movement and the fake honors, awards and grades given to Fulton Science Academy. It is all a part of the "Work into the arteries until you reach all power centers"
helping Hizmet to create their Golden Generation. We will give you time and you will find out like ever other parent has who had children at these schools. They start with the Turkish trips, Turkish Olympiads, then they bestow high grades and honors on your children, then the their school board doesn't share finances with you or talks turkish in front of you. They will drown you out and keep saying they are low on money and that you need to raise more more and more money.
You and the other parents will find out.

Brian,

You might want to get your facts straight before you look so silly. Here we go:

FSA has open financials that are shown monthly at the open Governing Board meeting on Saturday AM. Those financials are also provided monthly to Fulton. FSA has an external audit annually and passes with flying colors. It’s all public record, my man.

Where is your proof of the FBI? I heard you are covertly being investigated by the CIA. Disproove it.

Their scores are better than peer schools in math and science for the last 4 years. Don't trust me on it, Fulton County released those numbers last week. Wrong again.

Even when you normalize for poverty, they are at above the regression line. But, school is more than test scores. See how they do things like win the State Model UN or they get first in the country in the Social Studies fair. The list goes on.

See if you can muster up some better claims so I can shoot them down. These were way too easy. If you can stump me, I’ll buy you that brand new tin foil hat you have been looking for.

FSA Student, spoken like a true Gulenist.
Save it for your next school that has controversy and closes.

Yup, so you 'Christian' Elif Oz are out to take back Turkey and make it a christian nation again... Wow! that's how we solve real World problems.... continue your enlightenment please!!!!

No, I did not attend any of the trips to Turkey. However, even if I did take a picture in front of the grand mosque in Istanbul... what does it matter, in THIS situation, whether it was originally a church or not? Why, instead, don't you appreciate the fact that there ARE trips to other countries?

I am not an FSAstudent? No, I graduated... I WAS an FSA MS student. But it IS interesting how cynical you are... what a shame...

My sons have benefited from these trips a great deal. They haven’t been able to go on the Costa Rica trip, but have gone to Turkey. It was a great experience and something of which I am jealous. They got to see where Paul was in Epheusus and what was thought to be the Virgin Mary’s home. Oh, I think they saw some Muslims over there, too. But, I can still convince them to say the “Our Father” somehow.

Oh, and my sons and I had a great discussion of about the Hagia Sophia and the significance of it on our Catholic faith and the faith of others. It was a very educational visit.

FSA should organize a "school trip" to Japan like the one conducted by their sister school in NY, the Syracuse Academy of Science. This "school trip" consisted of only four male students and a Turkish teacher, who just happened to stay in the home of a non-Japanese man, visited the Tokyo Turkish Cultural Center (Gulenist), and an “International School in Tokyo” (turns out to be the Jingumae International Exchange School, another Gulen school).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOu3LHxTy2w&feature=channel_video_title

And then there was the trip to Arizona for a few boys who attended the Gulen charter school in Oakland.
http://www.charterschoolwatchdog.com/fantastic-diet-mr-yildiz.html
Naturally, the photo above has since been deleted from the album. Gulenist are always covering their tracks.
http://turkishinvitations.weebly.com/covering-their-tracks.html

And then there was this trip for students attending a Gulen school in Cambodia.
http://www.charterschoolwatchdog.com/teachers-with-guns.html

All these schools, including FSA, follow the same pattern: math and science focus, operations conducted by Turkish men, ongoing stream of imported Turkish and Turkic teachers for specific subjects, Turkish language and culture instruction, involvement in student competitions of ISWEEEP and Turkish Olympiads, and making suckers out of parents who are too afraid to see what's going on.

Radha why do you hate Christians so much? Now who is the bigot? (note I didn't use the incorrect word racist) You really need to look at the EEOC cases against these schools and find out who the prejudice ones are. Especially against women.
Start with Crouch vs. harmony science academy. Then look up Chesapeake Science Academy and how the police had to escort the principal off the campus, the movement later found a position for him at Gulen's ERBU TV.

Nothing made up, all have documents backing it up. This school is just one of the many Gulen Schools in the world. AND your kids is just one of the many robots they are grooming for their future janisarry Golden Generation.
http://www.gulenschoolsworldwide.blogspot.com

Love those blog spots made up by crazies.....anyone can post anything there... just like here... love it!

made up? since when is citing USA today, NY times et al made up?
Radha your sites are made up and ridiculous, Dr. Kurt how stupid and unimportant.

Nothing crazy about us, only your ranting and raving about these Gulen Charter Schools.

Here is a letter from a parent of an EX-FSA student sent to us. Yes "US" there are many. Her name is protected because of the way your cult attacks people that criticize your group.
Part I
The success of the schools are in the hands of the board, parents & community.

I hope that parents will:
find out who is on the Board
attend Board Meetings
understand they share responsibility for hiring

Yup, and it's the brilliant Avossa, apparently with a doctrate that could do that.... now that is a reliable link... keep digging...

So now Radha you think that Fitch downgrading your fake school is not a reliable link?

Get a life away from this cult.

Incidently, would you think Avossa was brillant if he caved into your absurd demands?
Just because Avossa has a brain and cannot be manipulated by a cult is something to be admired.

Most School Districts and Superintendants are very aware of the Gulen Movements attempts to dominate education in the USA. The traditional public schools hate your cult because you steal from the American people and produce nothing but children that dance the Kolbasti.

PART II LETTER from parent of EX-FSA Student

Next, parents need to educate themselves and their kids on the Gulen movement. Find out what the Gulen movement stands for beyond the marketing. Do you believe in Gulen's vision for Turkey, treatment of women and the fact his followers are not direct about their intentions? If not, ask questions.

Amen, Smartie! Very well said!!

Smartie "yawn" keep trying it is the same story,
Just try and dig deeper with your Turkish school board, if you are non Turkish and especially a women you will be drowned out. This 10 year request is for them to be more secretive and continue their game of manipulating your community.
it is the same old thing, and you are not such a "smartie" reading contrived releases from the school and their overpaid PR, advertising and Marketing.

Try reading USA Today and NY Times about this group.

smartie pants;
what about 4) pray to jesus christ your savior that he will help this school survive, tell your fellow parishoners about this school..............they will be thrilled to learn about Sufism, mystcism and other cults.

Careful what you wish for. This school is a money pit like their Harmony School of Political Science and Communications. this group stiffed local contractors out of $500K, Johnson vs. Cosmos Foundation dba Harmony Science Academy.

"Elif's" sordid little story is here:
http://horizonparents.blogspot.com/2011/01/here-is-story-of-mary-former-gulen.html
That said, at least she has a real identity. Most of the "Gulen" conspiracy theorists don't.

Yes the Blue Mosque was a Church before it was converted (St. Hagia Sofia) and as many of the Gulen Charter Schools you are converting old churches and catholic schools into YOUR gulen charter schools, here are a few that were converted:
Gateway Science Academy (St. Louis, MO)
Syracuse Science Academy (Syracuse, NY)
Lotus School of Excellence (Aurora, CO)

Shame on you, take the deal and show you are not afraid of transparency

DH now why would any FSA parent care about the Gulen Horizon Science Academies?

Could it be that you are all connected? Naw, after all your group has stated "there is no organic connection" snicker, giggles. Wow DH you blew your cover on that one.

Silly Esek.

http://horizonparents.blogspot.com/2011/01/here-is-story-of-mary-former-gulen.html

Merhaba Kim;
I am confused about why you and DH keep posting about the Horizon Science Academy. Are you trying to tell us that you are related to this school somehow? Please answer, I anticipate your reply. What would Mary from Ohio have to do with Fulton Science Academy in Georgia?
Just asking, you don't make sense.

Thanks for the clarification, DH. Now it makes sense, I guess Mary, ( aka Elif Oz, among countless other identities) doesn't have a true sense of herself, it's a shame to be uncomfortable in your own skin and be afraid to reveal one's true identity. How awful to be living a lie and being scared to reveal who you really are.
I am a mother of two children who attend FSA, I speak my OWN mind....I am not paid
to write the thoughts of others, I can not and will not be manipulated by these groups.
I am truly sorry you got your heart broken, but hey, that's life. Don't be bitter! Be your own person! No need to hate.

or maybe another ex teacher that was part of Hizmet?

Kudos FSA, HSA, DSA, and other Gulen charter schools, they will need it.

however Elif is she is a smart Turkish woman, that is very educated on the Gulen Movement.
Take the deal FSA school board and show you are NOT afraid of transparency.

Take the deal now, or else your school will close. Show you are not irresponsible.

To MarkMunoz,

Read it yourself before you blast it to others.
1. They're referencing Gulen at large but there's no mention of Grace Institute which is what FSA is affiliated with.
2. There's no mentioning of FSA in this article whatsoever. Don't you know how to read English?
3. There're more important things to worry about - at macro level - right now in this country's #25 rated education system than the growth of Gulen movement this or that.

While I don't know a thing about Gulen, what I read about FSA byproducts have been too impressive to ignore, even as a bystander. They're able to achieve - vis-a-vis pure dedication by human spirit and dignity of the educators in that system - so many great things that all schools in Georgia should model after not poke fun at. Can you do this? If not, stop blogging with side bar nuisance.

While football coaches are molesting boys from 7-12 years of age and Catholic priests have raped girls and boys of all ages, sizes, and races for decades and centuries in this country and all over the world, is this article that big of a news to you? While US Department of Defense's BILLIONs of Dollars have gone towards Halliburton governmental contracts - speaking of Houston! (your tax dollars and all of ours/// unless you don't pay any taxes that is) over the past decade and then more, you care to rant about this as an inappropriate use of public funds?????

Keep things in perspective.

"Smartie pants" you have a problem with REAL leaders like Avossa, Evans, Baldwin et al? just because they are asking for TRANSPARENCY?
It is critically important to note that when Hizmet doesn't get their way they attack, those they believe are their enemies. Even parents or ex-teachers from their schools. An ex-teacher was arrested in Turkey by the Gulen controlled police, and man oh man are you guys making enemies every where you go.

Take the 3 year renewal and show that you have nothing to hide. Otherwise it is your FSA school board comprised of Gulenists with NO educational experience that you should be looking at.

Take the 3 year, it is irresponsible of you to push for a 10 year without no oversight. Show you have nothing to hide.

FSA board is acting irresponsible and they are the ones that DIRECTLY AFFECT your child's education. They are not following the standardize rules and regulations and believe that laws that protect our children or tax money does not pertain to them.

Yeah Smartie Pants
and why does DH post a story about a previous American teacher from the Gulen Horizon Science Academies. What does Horizon have to do with Fulton?
Thought you had no organic connections?

Hey MarkMunoz, Mary Addi, Elif Oz,gmtracker, and who ever else is hiding in your mind, why don't we meet for coffee at the school and ask the board as many direct questions in person. I will be happy to show my face, are you up for it?

Great, I will definitely be at the next community board meeting. Please ask for me by name and I will be more than happy to speak face to face with you.

"conflict of interest" you say??? Yeah, buddy, there's a heck of a lot of conflict of interest when you hire your 'old buddies' instead of opening up the job opportunities to many qualified in-state Georgia residents who may have had a good shot at Ridgeview, Northview, etc.:
http://portal.fultonschools.org/News_Room/Archives/Pages/NewleadernamedforRiverwoodInternationalCharterSchool.aspx
http://portal.fultonschools.org/News_Room/Archives/Pages/PrincipalsnamedforWilsonCreekElementary,NorthviewHigh.aspx
While these new folks may be well qualified, the Fulton Board couldn't find 1 candidate who's an in-state Georgia educator to promote to these highly-esteemed schools' post? These 3 are not your run-of-the-mill schools either... they're going to greatly impact the direction of the newly converted Charter System schools in a record-setting, elite student body of schools...because they're leading schools.
There could have been many who could have benefitted from these opportunities to further groom their careers and perhaps even sit on the Board one day. Instead, they went to the Super's pals from North Carolina! Who paid for their relo cost?
As said before, be informed before you bring up all these trivial, irrelevant nonsense to divert attention from the actual problem at hand. Speaking of misuse of funds, I'd bet you don't even know how much $$ are thrown away towards unnecessary programs at Fulton! So, stop revealing your ignorance by bringing up junk news.

To Jennie:
There was no reference to pitting FSA schools with other Fulton schools regarding the Blue Ribbon. Of course, there're other Fulton schools that won this. But, that's not the point. However, since you brought it up, other Fulton schools had the backing and variable resources from the system that probably FSA did not have since they're a complete stand-alone system by itself. To achieve such visibility in a national platform is truly amazing... not to mention free After-School Activities options that they offer! I'm not affiliated with FSA but I'm a big fan for SCHOOL CHOICE. To KILL this SCHOOL or other FSA schools is TO KILL SCHOOL CHOICE, in the midst of Fulton System marching towards its own charter conversion.
For the future governance of these schools, the State of Georgia needs to step in and do what Indiana has done... have charter schools report up to the State Level and allow School Vouchers so that the Parents/Students do have a CHOICE! Not be stuck by arbitrary school boundaries that coincientally has no meaning since it gets altered quite excessively by Fulton Board in the past years, in some districts. (Cough, cough.) You're obviously looking at this very short-term as if you've had a child at the FSA MS right now and that's all you care about. Really, it's not about 'keeping the lights on' at stake here but the survival of the entire FSA school system (from ES all the way to HS) as all of these student bodies will be affected by this.

Jennie,

You got it wrong. Someone on the staff "thought" it was a conflict. Fulton County Schools attorneys later clarified that there was no conflict of interest and there never was a conflict of interest.

Because of this, the board has consistently reaffirmed that this wasn't an issue with the charter petition.

Name one rule they did not follow. I'm curious if you can.

I don't think anyone is saying other schools aren't great. My neighbors at Elkins are very happy and I think it is a great school. The same for Crabapple. I think what parents are saying is that FSA is a great place for their children.

John

Smartie Pants, conflict of Interest? Well the Gulen Charter Schools are the kings of it. They hire mostly unqualifed teachers from their "group" on H1-b Visas that are then billed back to Americans. They put good American teachers out of work just so they can have another of their cronies teaching Turkish or whatever the Gulen way. This is also for the Tuzuk (donation) back to the local Gulen foundation and or institute.

This group also throws out the bids of local community business leaders in preference for their OWN businesses that service the schools like: catering, janitorial service, etc.,

Talk about unfair, this group wrote the book on it. They abuse human rights everyday.

Jennie,

The FSA Governing Board has been trying to work with Fulton Schools, but the response they got from Board President Linda Schultz yesterday was "The Board now considers this matter to be closed.”

Despite what they say, it doesn't look like they want to work with FSA to keep the school open.

This also ignores the State Board of Education rule that governs this process. Linda Schultz should know that there is a process to resolve issues just like this one:

“If a local board denies a petition, the petitioner shall not be precluded from submitting a revised petition to the local board that addresses the deficiencies cited in the denial”. -- Georgia State Board of Education Rule 160-4-9-.04 section 3(c)3

Why did the charter expert for the County mislead the press, Board, parents, staff, and students when she ignored this option as she explained this process during the Board meeting? We now know tho things:

1. They didn't/don't want to adhere to the rules of the process
2. They still don't truly want the school open... they have a legal mechanism to solve this in the best interest of everyone

Regarding the Grace contract, I'm not sure what you know about 501(c)3 organizations, but they have contracts with other organizations all of the time. There was no conflict (per Fulton). There was no compensation. They actually saved taxpayers money by pooling resources for FSAConnect, one of the innovations that gives FSA better parental interaction.

Dear Mr. John Trainor:
They lied because they (Hizmet) your FSA School Board did not live up to the contract they signed. The Fulton County School board had no choice under the circumstances, side stepping the blame onto others. This is irresponsible behavior and sets a poor example for children that need accountability not blame. This is the same type of methods they peruse in Turkiye, blaming everyone.

If they re-apply to the state, please watch their every move. Here is a guide to how many times they have changed their name and board members.
http://www.charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/2011/12/gulen-charter-schools-in-georgia.html

Good point, DH!
It may be sheer coincidence but Principal appointments at key schools like Riverwood (the only IB School in Fulton) and Northview (top-scoring SAT HS in the state) all going to Mr. A's old buddies seem interesting...and, statistically the places with strongest education program are in MA, Philadelphia suburbs, NYC, northern VA, Seattle-Bellevue area, Chicago area, etc. if one was to scout for 'la creme de la creme' educators,,,,,, but, Charlotte??? Other school districts that have succeeded loudly in charter conversion system is in places like Dallas-Irving district so why not bring someone from any of these recognized places? Why other folks from another Deep South --- if none of the folks in Georgia was good enough supposedly in the first place which is why he brought the folks including his Chief of Staff from NC?
To your point, now place another buddy at a top institution like FSA schools would be pretty darn purrrrrty!

MarkMunoz, you were outed above already as being the same person as Elif Oz.

DH and Kim are the same person they even post the SAME link to Horizon Science Academy. Now it's official they link Horizon with Fulton Science Academy.
Learn how many times they change the name of their school here. You American parents better watch those slippery sneaky little devils.
http://www.charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/2011/12/gulen-charter-schools-in-georgia.html

To ElifOz-MarkMunoz-M-A-R-Y quite contrary,

Read again before showing your lack of English and apparent lack of Reading Comprehension which you haven't mastered !!! That kid's performance and her being "planted" in the Q&A session by her mom - the Board's Chief Architect - was all 'by design' so as to push their agenda at that meeting which wasn't about FSA that evening by the way. The "PS." comment was made in SARCASM not actually complimenting the orchestration of using one's kid to further push adults' agendas.

Nobody's listening to you anymore --- not only have you been outed several times as Mary the former disgruntled teacher but some blogger even outed you as a petty paid writer by some group just to incite xenophobic fire under people's belt. Sadly, it's not working for you. Nobody's paying attention because the audience level in this forum's way above your head. They know so much more than you. And, apparently, some of them seem to know quite a lot about you too....

@Smartie....
Double like!!!!